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March 7, 2013
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masseybrown
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When bad weather is forecast, have the airlines decided that pre-emptive cancellations are cheaper that flying and eating the cost of diversions? It seems as if CLE is not seeing the usual number of diversion lately.
July 18, 2013
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Chuck Slusarczyk Jr.
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I would have to agree with this premise. Preemptive cancellations are the name of the game now, and diversions are dropping dramatically. Even with the summer thunderstorm season upon us, diversions have been few. We are more likely to see Delta diversions destined for Detroit than anything else. We DID have an Air France A340 drop in on us a bit ago for the same reason, but United diversions are virtually non-existent, save for tech stops or medical emergencies.
July 18, 2013
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Delta Flight 822 was diverted today.
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July 19, 2013
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Confirming the apparent preference of UA to cancel rather than divert, I came across the below numbers for Jan-Jun 2013, by UA acft type, that show way more cancellations. CO used to figure that cancellations cost more than delays; times have changed.
acft | divert_percentage -------+------------------- A319 | 0.4 A320 | 0.2 B737 | 0.3 B738 | 0.3 B739 | 0.3 B744 | 0.2 B752 | 0.4 B753 | 0.2 B763 | 0.3 B764 | 0.2 B772 | 0.1 B788 | 0.6
acft | cancellation_percent -------+---------------------- A319 | 1.5 A320 | 1.4 B737 | 1.0 B738 | 0.5 B739 | 0.5 B744 | 0.6 B752 | 1.1 B753 | 1.6 B763 | 1.7 B764 | 0.9 B772 | 0.5 B788 | 3.5
July 19, 2013
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Chuck Slusarczyk Jr.
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Yes, that seems to tell a story right there Massey. I think it stems from the fear of fines for long-tarmac delays, which are quite hefty, and the airlines would rather cancel than risk a lengthy weather related ground delay and possible numerous gate returns while awaiting an opening in the weather. Plus, gate space is limited so planes would have to play "musical gates" to return in time to avoid a fine, and not all planes can park on all gates...a logistical nightmare. Passengers no longer want to wait out a storm or be "held captive" on an airplane, so the simplest thing to do seems to be to cancel in advance and avoid the risk altogether.
July 19, 2013
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No sense posting more geek alerts since its now dark but tonight (Fri 7/19), Toronto gave us some love in the form of these diversions to CLE:
Condor 767-300
Air Canada A319
Air Canada 777-300
Air Canada Rouge A319
Jazz CRJ
...and who know what else over night. Thunderstorms up north.
July 19, 2013
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Yes they did! YYZ was getting pounded pretty hard, so we had a few come here. It's neat to get YYZ diverts, since that almost never happens and it's a different mix of aircraft. Got a bunch of shots I'm going to work on now!
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